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Post by ilovegrayshaw on Mar 1, 2006 8:49:37 GMT -5
Petitions are not really my thing but if you sign this then a 20th anniversary DVD edition of the Phantom might be filmed at Her Majesty's Theatre in London. www.petitiononline.com/POTO/petition.htmlI have signed and left a comment. If this link has been posted/removed before then I am sorry. I did look for any previous posts though.
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Post by Hikagekun on Mar 1, 2006 20:44:12 GMT -5
Of course I'll sign!
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Post by Marielle on Mar 2, 2006 0:17:37 GMT -5
Currently 1541 total! I signed it too.. come on, I want a DVD of the show!
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Post by kennybax on Mar 2, 2006 3:13:57 GMT -5
would a dvd of the show not mean less people go to the show, and a possibility of the show closing
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Post by Hikagekun on Mar 2, 2006 8:49:52 GMT -5
but they could record it with the intention of releasing it when the show closes.
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Post by Sissi on Mar 2, 2006 13:39:48 GMT -5
but they could record it with the intention of releasing it when the show closes. That, would be a better idea. But I don't understand though. There are a ton of official videos of nearly every opera, yet I don't see any of those operas selling any less tickets, and I doubt any of them will stop being produced anytime. But why aren't musicals the same?
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Post by kennybax on Mar 2, 2006 14:03:14 GMT -5
by the time phantom closes, it might be 30 years old(its popular, no expectation to close), a 20th aniversary dvd would be very outdated by then
re- musicals not doing dvds: musicals have previously been affected in terms of viewing figures if there is a stage dvd/video... is cats not an example of this???
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Post by Sissi on Mar 2, 2006 18:15:13 GMT -5
re- musicals not doing dvds: musicals have previously been affected in terms of viewing figures if there is a stage dvd/video... is cats not an example of this??? However, it's not like there are no musicals going on DVDs. Romeo & Juliette, Notre Dame de Paris, Autant en Emporte le Vent, Les Miserables Dream Cast in Concert, Sweeney Todd, 3 Musketiers, Into the Woods, and to name a few more. And out of those listed, only Notre Dame de Paris, Into the Woods, and Autant en Emporte le Vent are no longer running somewhere in the world.
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Post by kennybax on Mar 2, 2006 18:19:27 GMT -5
you have a point, however i stress the Les Miserables dream cast is not technically on-stage recording of a production of the show, as there are things cut out...
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Post by Hikagekun on Mar 2, 2006 18:57:55 GMT -5
And also the Into the Woods, Sweeney Todd, Elisabeth, and Sunday in the Park With George recordings weren't released till after they closed.
But all of those have been revived except for Elisabeth (because the video was of the revival) and Sunday. I think that is so because a video can not replace a live performance, the video allows exposure to the show and it allows those who may not be able to see it or can not see it (take Sunday which will probably not be revived for a long time).
Like the Phantom and Rent movies actually boosted sales.
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Post by exedore on Mar 3, 2006 1:10:30 GMT -5
And also the Into the Woods, Sweeney Todd, Elisabeth, and Sunday in the Park With George recordings weren't released till after they closed. Into the Woods, Sweeney Todd, and SITPWG (and let's add Passion) all have one big thing in common - they're by Steven Sondheim. Sondheim is one of the few composers who actively seeks to get his works recorded and onto the market, mostly because the video sales help to recover the money that is almost always lost on the actual run. It's business, but a very smart and fan-friendly business. Ah, but licensed productions (in Germany, Japan, and recently Finland) are still running and doing good business (although someone could correct me on Elisabeth in Stuttgart...why move it to Berlin if it's doing well?) SITPWG is currently being revived in London in a small non-profit house. The revival will be moved to the West End in a couple months, and potentially restaged on Broadway if the West End production proves a success, similar to the new production of Sweeney Todd. Sunday's a hard show to get into, but worth it once you do...bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum... Indeed. No video can EVER compare to seeing a show live. The aspect of sharing the experience isn't there, camera jumps can get in the way, and the actor-audience bond is missing. What a good video does is preserve the staging and creates an audience interest in seeing the show in person. This is what irks me so much about most of the official Andrew Lloyd Webber videos - they're different enough from what's on stage that they don't really appeal to me as a theatregoer. I'd much rather see a video of the 1993 staging of Joseph than the soundstage version produced for DVD, and I shudder to think about what's going to happen when it finally comes time for RUG to make a video of Starlight Express for the same reason. The trick there was that the films were different enough from the stage version (can't comment in detail on Phantom, but RENT was missing about 20-30 min. of music, some replaced with dialogue) that it created a buzz drawing people back to the original work. On the other hand, interest in the stage version of The Producers plummeted when the film was in cinemas because it was close to what was onstage, except with better actors than the ones currently leading the production.
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Post by Sissi on Mar 3, 2006 1:47:43 GMT -5
(although someone could correct me on Elisabeth in Stuttgart...why move it to Berlin if it's doing well?) In Germany, they always move shows around. My guess for the reason is that when a show is not doing so well in one place, they close it there and open it somewhere else and see if it would do better at the new place. And from what I've heard, Elisabeth in Stuttgart really hasn't been as successful as people would like it to be, and I personally am not surprised about that, as I am VERY disappointed in the cast and the production in general.
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Post by Hikagekun on Mar 4, 2006 14:42:31 GMT -5
The trick there was that the films were different enough from the stage version (can't comment in detail on Phantom, but RENT was missing about 20-30 min. of music, some replaced with dialogue) that it created a buzz drawing people back to the original work. On the other hand, interest in the stage version of The Producers plummeted when the film was in cinemas because it was close to what was onstage, except with better actors than the ones currently leading the production. Nobody saw the Producers because it wasn't advertised. The only advertising I saw for The Producers was in RENT. If they had advertised it more, The Producers probably could have been really big. The release of the Producers was a really stupid one. They should have released it either before the King Kong\Narnia craze, or after it. They should have advertised it more, like on Adult Swim and Comedy Central to get the Teenage Boy\Comedy\Will Ferrel crowd. The Producers wasn't a bad movie, quite the opposite, it was just the brushed to the side middle child that got no attention.
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Post by Brae on Mar 5, 2006 16:13:10 GMT -5
The Producers wasn't a bad movie, quite the opposite, it was just the brushed to the side middle child that got no attention. Amen
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Post by greenlace on Apr 4, 2006 17:59:03 GMT -5
it's deactivated now...that can't be good
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