Sinina
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Post by Sinina on Feb 28, 2008 5:54:39 GMT -5
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Post by Martina on Feb 28, 2008 8:44:00 GMT -5
Ooooh!!
I'd love to see a "Don Camillo" on stage!! I loved all original films with Fernandel and Gino Cervi and I almost know them all by heart... ;D ;D
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Post by IchBinRory on Feb 28, 2008 11:48:59 GMT -5
Hmmm guess there's only one thing to say: "Watch this space"  |
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Lottie
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Post by Lottie on Mar 8, 2008 21:34:09 GMT -5
Hm, no Levay here, huh? I suppose that's okay since Levay is supposedly the one who keeps hating the Scandinavian Elisabeth casts and won't let their CDs come out.  Looks interesting! |
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Post by Valancy on Mar 9, 2008 3:26:53 GMT -5
I suppose that's okay since Levay is supposedly the one who keeps hating the Scandinavian Elisabeth casts and won't let their CDs come out. I don't know if there's any truth in those rumours. People say that about the Swedish cast, but I've never heard of how it's supposedly known. And that theatre does 3-4 musicals a year and rarely makes cast recordings of any of them, so it's probably not surprising they didn't make one of Elisabeth either. And anyway, they let Cecilie Nerfont go to the 10th anniversary concert, and they allowed that theatre do Mozart later on, so their Elisabeth can't have been so bad. As for the Finnish Elisabeth, there was no recording because the theatre's financial situation was really bad and they didn't think they could afford it. Obviously they weren't thinking about the fact that the CD would certainly pay itself back, but well, it wouldn't be the first time someone in the Finnish theatre world is being stupid. If the Finnish recording was cancelled for any reason from the part of the creators, my guess is that it'd be because Kunze got wind of how bad the translation was. I anyway can't think of how Levay would have had anything against the cast, because while they weren't directed that well, they were some of the most awesome singers I've ever heard in this musical. Anyway, I look forward to hearing more about these musicals. Guess I have to read some Don Camillo stories to find out what they're like... |
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Post by Milady on Mar 9, 2008 13:07:35 GMT -5
A fan who seems to have known the musical director in Karlstad said on his webpage that Levay blocked a 5 track recording: us.geocities.com/franz-josef/karlstad.htmHe could be misinformed, naturally, but I think the fact that a demo was made suggests they had something in mind and were somehow prevented from releasing a professional recording. I think the main reason Cecilie was involved in the various 10th anniversary celebrations is her status as the only Swedish Elisabeth. With her, they had an Elisabeth in each language (and, at the TAC, from at least one production in every country where the show had played.) It could also be that they liked her performance and maybe not others, too. |
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Post by Valancy on Mar 9, 2008 14:35:27 GMT -5
Thanks for linking to that, I hadn't seen that page before. It was interesting to learn a bit more about the Swedish production. However, I'm still taking the information about Levay blocking the recording with a grain of salt, as long as it isn't clearer exactly where this information is coming from and who really said what. I mean... they allowed the Stuttgart cast do a recording, too... And Cecilie sounds great on the 10th anniversary CD. Not like someone who was there just because they didn't want to explain why they didn't have anyone from the Swedish production. I'm just not yet convinced there's that much of a reason to be ashamed of the Swedish production.
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Post by Fantasma da Opera on Mar 9, 2008 14:45:57 GMT -5
I mean... they allowed the Stuttgart cast do a recording, too... Although you may don't like the Stuttgart cast (Maike and Olegg) lots of people like and the CD was obviously more easy to sell then maybe a Swedish cast. I don't dislike the Swedish cast and honestly it wouldn't arm the world if they've released a CD, but I think I can understand a bit if they blooked the production. The Finnish version sounded much better to me than the Swedish... and since I don't understand non of those languages I think I can be impartial  . Well, maybe it there's a Revival someday they'll produce a CD... (Btw, Maike and Olegg rule! I prefer them a million times over a certain revival duet  ;D) |
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Post by Cia on Mar 9, 2008 14:59:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the link, Milady! From what I've heard of the Swedish cast, apart from Cecilie they weren't that good so I'd quite easily understand why Levay would have forbidden the recording. I still take it as only a rumour, though. Back to the original topic, I love Don Camillo books and am eager to hear what Kunze makes out of them.  I'm also curious to hear who will compose the Nibelungenlied musical... |
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Post by Milady on Mar 9, 2008 15:13:19 GMT -5
From what I've heard of the Swedish cast, apart from Cecilie they weren't that good so I'd quite easily understand why Levay would have forbidden the recording. I still take it as only a rumour, though. I wasn't really fond of what I heard of the Swedish cast either, and I think Cecilie is a lot better at the TAC than she had been previously. Out of the cast, though, she was probably the best. |
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Post by Valancy on Mar 10, 2008 15:40:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not saying that this couldn't have been the case with the Swedish recording, of course it's possible, but so far I only take it as a rumour, since I've seen nothing very official-seeming confirming even that a recording ever was planned. I prefer to take these things with a grain of salt because rumours easily grow on the internet. In any case, even if this would have happened with the Swedish recording, there's no reason to believe it would have been the case with the Finnish recording, so it's not like Levay has a habit of going around forbidding Scandinavian or other recordings. I wanted to correct that idea. I'm also curious to hear who will compose the Nibelungenlied musical... Oh yes. I somehow keep wanting Jim Steinman to compose that. Wouldn't that be something awesome? |
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Post by Fantasma da Opera on Mar 10, 2008 15:56:53 GMT -5
Oh yes. I somehow keep wanting Jim Steinman to compose that. Wouldn't that be something awesome? It would be interesting yes...though I think an epic poem turned into a musical would sound better with music like the one composed by ALW or Boudil&Schönberg (no idea who's the composer and who's the librettist) |
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Post by Cia on Mar 10, 2008 16:36:09 GMT -5
I'm also curious to hear who will compose the Nibelungenlied musical... Oh yes. I somehow keep wanting Jim Steinman to compose that. Wouldn't that be something awesome? As a Steinman fan I'd be overjoyed by that! As far as I know he has said that he'd love to make a musical about the story, but he's also good at slipping out hints of his current projects and I haven't heard anything of him composing the musical. There's always hope, though. In a way I'm a bit weirdo for a musical fan because I find most musicals by ALW, Boublil&Schönberg, Sondheim, etc. quite boring. Apart from Steinman, Levay is the only musical composer I'm really fond of. |
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Post by Fantasma da Opera on Mar 10, 2008 17:51:55 GMT -5
In a way I'm a bit weirdo for a musical fan because I find most musicals by ALW, Boublil&Schönberg, Sondheim, etc. quite boring. Apart from Steinman, Levay is the only musical composer I'm really fond of. I'm not a fan of Boublil&Schönberg musicals though I like their music (maybe if they came up with a decent theme...). As for Sondheim his music is way over too weird and to me just works along with the lyrics and on stage. ALW I love just like Levay. I don't like all Levay's compositions just like I don't like all ALWs. The only musical by ALW I really can't stand at all is Aspects of Love because the musical itself is stupid |
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Post by Valancy on Mar 11, 2008 2:50:06 GMT -5
The only musical by ALW I really can't stand at all is Aspects of Love because the musical itself is stupid I'm not a fan of majority of ALW but I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Aspects of Love is exceedingly stupid. I had a CD and listened to it at some point (I was 16 and liked Michael Ball's voice), and was like, please, why is this musical so stupid, doesn't anything vaguely sensible happen in it? There's a Forbidden Broadway parody of it called "I Sleep With Everyone" and it totally made me crack up when I heard it. Also, I counted that the whole musical has about eight different musical themes and they're reused randomly without it making any sense, either. Levay and Steinman are by far my favourite musical composers. There are a few others I also like - Wildhorn has a lot of good stuff as long as I skip all the love songs, Presgurvic can do some good stuff (especially if Hungarians rearrange them better ) and I like some of the music by ALW and Boublil/Schönberg (gah, I can't remember which one of them is the composer either). But Levay and Steinman are the only ones who I really enjoy very much. I think people often don't give enough credit to Levay as a composer, though maybe it's also just a question of tastes. His music takes a while to really sink in, but when I listen to it a lot I always marvel at how amazingly it works. The only thing I'm frequently annoyed about with him is that he has to make all the important women's songs so hellishly low. I would like to be able to sing them sometimes, too, thank you very much... And Steinman is just awesome, he's the only composer who's managed to make me fall in love with a musical just on hearing the Overture. |
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. Well, maybe it there's a Revival someday they'll produce a CD...
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I'm also curious to hear who will compose the Nibelungenlied musical...