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Post by Valancy on Jul 6, 2009 3:35:16 GMT -5
Me too. I'd rather have Homonnay Zsolt as Maxim and Zoli as Favel... Yeah, that's how I'd rather have had it, too. Though I agree Árpi and Ádám will be good as Favell, too. Though I don't like Árpi's voice and he'll probably be the first cast and be on the CD (I assume one will come out)... But then, I don't listen to Favell's songs anyway.  |
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Post by safira on Sept 17, 2009 16:04:52 GMT -5
Operettszínház has published the first parts of the cast: Ich - Szinetár Dóra, Vágó Zsuzsi Maxim - Bereczki Zoltán, Szabó P. Szilveszter Also on stage will be Mészáros Árpád Zsolt, Bálint Ádám, Szulák Andrea, Náray Erika, Felföldi Anikó, Földes Tamás, Pálfalvy Attila, Janza Kata, Polyák Lilla, Nádasi Veronika and Füredi Nikolett. www.operett.hu/operett.php?pid=read&hId=507 |
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Post by Valancy on Sept 18, 2009 1:32:58 GMT -5
Last weekend already there were cast lists being published on Hungarian musical forums, but I didn't want to post the info yet because I wanted to wait for something official. But today and tomorrow will be the so-called Broadway Fesztival, where the theatre's actors are performing on the street outside the theatre on both days, and tomorrow evening is the Rebecca concert and after that information will anyway surely get out, so I might as well share what I know so far. Supposedly this cast list was revealed by Janza Kata in a radio interview, and it's supposed to be like this (the one thing I don't know for sure is who is first and who second/third cast in all roles):
Ich: Szinetár Dóra / Vágó Zsuzsi
Maxim: Bereczki Zoltán / Szabó P. Szilveszter
Mrs Danvers: Polyák Lilla / Janza Kata / Nádasi Veronika
Beatrice: Nádasi Veronika / Füredi Nikolett / Janza Kata
(Frank: Földes Tamás / Pálfalvy Attila - I'm not sure if this was also said in the programme or if people heard it somewhere else)
Favell: Mészáros Árpád Zsolt / Bálint Ádám
Ben: Pirgel Dávid
Mrs Van Hopper: Szulák Andrea / Náray Érika
I've also seen versions of the list where Kata was listed as 1st cast Mrs Danvers, not Lilla, and I'm uncertain about the order of the Beatrices. I think otherwise the first cast / second cast order is this.
My thoughts are not fit to print, so I will be brief. I don't know which is a greater insult to the part of the public that has ears and taste, the fact that Füredi Nikolett didn't get cast as Danvers or that Janza Kata did. Polyák Lilla is the one saving grace for me as I'm sure she'll be magnificent as Mrs Danvers, and is pretty much the only reason I'm not yet deciding to boycott the production in its entirety. If it turns out that Kata, not Lilla, is the first cast Danvers, then I might boycott it anyway. I have no idea why Kata (and Veronika, though she at least can do them) needed to be given two roles in a show, but it will make seeing the musical trickier as I have no desire to see Kata in either of those roles.
I am glad about Ben and have no objections to the actors of Favell or Mrs Van Hopper (other than that I don't like the singing voices of either of the Favells, but I don't like Favell's songs anyway). As said before, I'm happy about the second cast Ich/Maxim but the first cast choices weird me out. I love Dóra and Zoli, but not for those roles.
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Post by Lora on Sept 18, 2009 1:49:34 GMT -5
Mrs Danvers: ... / Janza Kata / ... Beatrice: ... / Füredi Nikolett / Janza Kata No  I was really hoping this wouldn't happen. Otherwise I'm mostly happy with the rest of the cast. Though I'd much more prefer Füredi Nikolett as Mrs Danvers than Beatrice. |
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Post by Valancy on Sept 18, 2009 1:53:19 GMT -5
While I'm sure Nikolett will make a fantastic Beatrice, I think it's the grossest casting injustice I can think of from the recent years that she wasn't cast as Mrs Danvers. I've had the fortune of hearing her sing the songs in a concert. Her voice was unbelievable and her acting gave me chills. She would have been so amazing in the role, and anyone with any sense should have given it to her. I'm not that into most of Beatrice's songs, so it's a small consolation for me, and it annoys me if indeed they couldn't make her first cast even in that role.
Kata is going to sound dreadful singing Mrs Danvers's songs. Those are way beyond her vocal capabilities, especially as her voice has been getting worse recently. The good thing is that we can hope she won't last long in the role and then Niki will be promoted...
I'm curious as to what happened to Kunze and Levay supposedly having rejected her. This was said by a person who otherwise gave a completely accurate cast list, so it probably was true at the time.
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Post by Fantasma da Opera on Sept 18, 2009 6:44:45 GMT -5
I'll wait for the official Cast list to see if that terrorist act against Rebecca was indeed made...Kata as Danvers...this is a nightmare even bigger than Maya...
I was planning on going to Budapest to see the show, but if Kata will play Mrs.Danvers, with that instable Cast thing I'm definitly not spending my money to have my years destroyed...
I mean...with so many talented hungarian actresses in Hungary for the role...The rest of the cast is great! but the show revolves A LOT around Mrs.Danvers...apparently they failed to see that.
Grrr...*goesawaypissed*
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Post by Valancy on Sept 18, 2009 8:02:08 GMT -5
The problem is that Mr. Kero has certain pets among the actors, and while a lot of them are actually talented people, Kata also figures among them. She always gets put forward instead of the really talented actresses like Lilla and Nikolett. Supposedly five actresses applied for the role of Danvers: Lilla, Kata, Nikolett, Veronika, and Peller Anna. I find it amazing that out of that bunch they had to pick the only one who isn't suitable for the role. I mean, they also picked two who were, Lilla and Veronika, but I don't understand why on earth Nikolett or Anna couldn't be chosen instead of Kata. Pure favouritism... And saying that Kata sells more tickets would be ridiculous, because Danvers is a role that makes stars out of actresses. Put Niki in it and soon she'll be selling more tickets than Kata ever.
On the positive side, I don't think her voice can possibly endure screeching out Danvers's songs for a very long time, so perhaps in a year or two she'll lose her voice and Niki will get to play instead of her.
A lot of the cast is actually fine - I agree about most of the small roles, and while I don't understand casting Dóra and Zoli in the leads, I wouldn't refuse to see them; I'd give them a chance though I think Dóri is too old for the role and Zoli too young. But as Fantasma said, the musical revolves a lot around Danvers. I have horrid cast change karma in that theatre, so I'm not sure I'll dare to buy tickets to that show because I'm sure that even if I'm supposed to get Lilla I'll end up getting Kata instead. And I don't want to risk that, because it would just ruin the experience to have a Danvers who sounds like she's hanging onto those high notes for dear life and will probably die after the next one. Not having anything to complain about with Frank, Mrs Van Hopper and Favell (or Beatrice, since at least Kata wouldn't be able to play both roles at once) would only do so much to make up for that...
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Post by Milady on Sept 18, 2009 11:28:55 GMT -5
And saying that Kata sells more tickets would be ridiculous, because Danvers is a role that makes stars out of actresses. Put Niki in it and soon she'll be selling more tickets than Kata ever. I agree. Kero seems obsessed with making Nikolett into Kata's permanent understudy. I could complain about how other actresses have been given the short end of the deal as well, but Nikolett's case is unique in that she's obviously the person who is going to replace Kata. If Kata didn't need replacing, that would be a more difficult situation, but she does. She hasn't maintained or improved her talent, and her decline has left her out of reach of a role like Mrs. Danvers. She should step aside, give up what she can't do well anymore, and find new roles to play that don't make her look foolish. But, she doesn't seem able to do that, and Kero should be doing it for her in that case, but he's not. So, Nikolett is stuck in Kata's shadow until one of them comes to their senses or Kata's voice gives out. Ridiculous. I'm also worried that someone Kata has weaseled her way into first-cast position. However, given that Lilla wasn't cast as Beatrice (which I was sure would happen), I'm holding on to hope that she's in first position and the others were given time as Beatrice to make up for the difference. It shouldn't make such a difference to me, but I really want this for Lilla (she always seems to end up as the motherly figure or as second-fiddle to someone less talented) and as a CD is likely the closest thing I'll get to this production, I want Lilla, not Kata, on it. |
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Post by safira on Nov 17, 2009 17:11:50 GMT -5
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Post by Valancy on Nov 19, 2009 9:05:20 GMT -5
Just FYI, the performance dates shown in the last link aren't yet (in all likelihood) all the performances there will be. The Operettszínház hasn't published any part of the 2010 programme yet, but what is known is the performances that will be on the "ticket packages" they sell. I can't think of an English word for it though there might be one, in Hungarian it's called "bérlet" and the idea is that when you buy one of these packages, you get tickets to 3-4 specified performances of different musicals/operettas. The packages are published in the beginning of the season, so the performances on them are already known then. Rebecca is on a whole lot of these packages so a lot of the performances are known, but I'm sure there will be many more shows around the already published dates - it's going to be such a big production that they won't do just 2-3 shows a month, and the in-between days will certainly be filled, too (e.g. if there's a show marked for Friday and Sunday evenings, you can be quite sure there'll also be a show on Saturday evening and most likely Saturday and Sunday afternoons, too). But that page can give you an idea of when it's going to be playing, for anyone who wants to plan. It doesn't seem to be possible to buy tickets yet except via the Budapest Spring Festival for those performances which are a part of it (the show will premiere then, and I think the tickets during that festival are more expensive than the regular tickets, but I might be mistaken).
I've no concrete plans of seeing it. Since it's not a favourite musical (I like it, but it's not a favourite and I completely lack any obsessiveness for it) and I'm not that happy with many of the cast decisions, it's not something I'll buy plane tickets for. I'll probably see it some time when I'm already in town for something else, but first I'll wait to see what people are saying about it and what the promotional material will sound/look like.
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Post by Who on Nov 19, 2009 11:13:17 GMT -5
Valancy...based on your description of a "bérlet," I would say the English word for it is "subscription".
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Post by Valancy on Nov 19, 2009 13:00:34 GMT -5
Thanks! If the word can be used for such a thing in English, then I'm sure it's the correct translation, because I think also the regular meaning of "bérlet" can translate to that. I have a surprisingly lousy theatre-related vocabulary in English because I so rarely go to theatre in English-speaking countries, given that I don't travel there much.
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Post by safira on Nov 19, 2009 15:18:46 GMT -5
Sure the ones in the last link aren´t all dates when Rebecca will be shown. They never tell all dates that early. I just meant these are the other dates which are officially known.  And no, not all seats are more expensive at Budapest Spring Festival performances. In fact just the most expensive ones are - compared to the theatre prices of this season. The others cost the same or even less than normal. And of course you can´t get tickets except the ones for Budapest Spring Festival. Ticketportal usually sells them two months before. So I guess they´ll start selling the tickets for March in January. I´ll go and see it. I haven´t seen it in Vienna but it sounds interesting to me. And besides some "not-dream-casts" there are enough people on stage I want to see.  |
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Post by Valancy on Nov 20, 2009 3:54:07 GMT -5
*shrugs* I figured I'd point that out for the benefit of other people who might not know the situation, since there wasn't anything in your post to specifically indicate these weren't all the performances there would be.
OK, I haven't checked out the ticket prices. I just heard people say it's more expensive on the festival, but I haven't looked myself, not having any plans to go then.
And sure, I was just saying why I don't so far plan to go, given that I do tend to go to see shows in Budapest an awful lot; I wasn't saying anyone who does go needs to explain themselves. Seeing shows in Budapest is generally a good thing to be doing. I'm just spending my musical travel money principally on other shows for now.
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Post by Valancy on Feb 12, 2010 5:39:58 GMT -5
Have been meaning to post this for a while but forgotten... The theatre's page for Rebecca: www.operett.hu/operett.php?pid=show&rId=87&evad=5You can see the full cast list there. The thing making me the happiest is Sánta László as 2nd cast Ben. I'd actually have cast him in that role in the first place, as happy as I was about Dávid in it, too. It seems Kata is at least nominally the first Danvers, which makes me sad. Then again, posters have come out and they seem to have Lilla there with the first cast Ich/Maxim and Kata with the 2nd cast, so I don't know how it will really be. Rumours on Hungarian forums say that not only did Kunze and Levay not want Kata as Danvers, they also didn't want Zoltán as Maxim but instead wanted Homonnay Zsolt. Oh, how much I wish they'd been listened to... Dóra and Zoli recently performed "Hilf mir durch die Nacht" in a TV show and sounded absolutely horrid (you can find it on YouTube). I don't know what's going on because usually I like their voices well enough, I just didn't like casting them for those roles; but maybe the songs are musically too difficult for them and they're straining their voices because of that. Let's hope they get it better together for the premiere, there's still five weeks... You can see the pictures of the posters and other pictures from a press conference here: www.vivalamusical.com/gallery_details.php?id=reb&poz=0&selected_language=HUN |
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I was really hoping this wouldn't happen.
