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Post by Valancy on May 20, 2010 12:56:27 GMT -5
I loved the first cast as well and I'm glad they're on the CD - although Zoli is no Maxim, but he sang tons better than Szilveszter ever could, so for purely listening he may be the better option, anyway. I haven't seen the second cast, but I know them from other roles and I'd say that except for Ben all of the first cast sing much better. And for the most part they acted their roles great. I haven't yet seen Lilla as Danvers, but I'm very happy it's her on the CD and not Kata (and I don't care how many people say they found her okay on stage, I'm sick to no end of that woman and don't want to hear her voice if I can avoid it). And I'm happy about Nikolett ending up on the CD, too. She was fantastic when I saw her, though the part is relatively small.
This is definitely going on my shopping list...
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Post by safira on May 20, 2010 14:34:28 GMT -5
I loved the first cast, too, but I also loved the second cast. In my opinion the first cast contains some better voices but the second cast has some more impressing actors. So just for listening the first cast might really be better. I agree with Zoli not being a "real" Maxim, but I don´t know if his better singing helps on CD with lack of this character. :/ Anyway I can´t complain about a shouting second cast. In my performances they all sang well. And Zsuzsi sounds younger than Dora. Lilla was fantastic as Danvers and so was Nikolett as Beatrice. So I´m happy they´re on the CD. Still I wish there was a CD with the second cast, too. I´d buy both.
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Post by Fantasma da Opera on May 21, 2010 12:45:21 GMT -5
I agree with Zoli not being a "real" Maxim, but I don´t know if his better singing helps on CD with lack of this character. :/ Anyway I can´t complain about a shouting second cast. In my performances they all sang well. And Zsuzsi sounds younger than Dora. Lilla was fantastic as Danvers and so was Nikolett as Beatrice. So I´m happy they´re on the CD. Still I wish there was a CD with the second cast, too. I´d buy both. I completly disagree. I just heard the CD and "Zoli" sounds amazing and doesn't lack character at all. Dora sounds older than supposed, that I agree. And Lilla is amazing along with Nikolett as Beatrice. I can't really express how relieved I am there is no trace of Kata Janza on the CD. My only complain...it's short. But then again...I bought the Japanese CD of Rebecca and that one is even shorter...
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Post by safira on May 21, 2010 15:46:33 GMT -5
Well, if Zoli sings good on the CD it´s just great! I was just a bit afraid that he might sing well but I´d miss the Maxim in his voice. His performance on stage was great but that consists of more than just singing. And yes, 16 tracks are short. I hope they´ll record the whole show, too! By the way: How did you get the CD? I´m still looking for a way to get it here.
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Post by Fantasma da Opera on May 21, 2010 17:12:10 GMT -5
Well since Uwe wasn't exactly what I would except Maxim to be, I don't judge Zoli that hard. At least his voice doesn't crack lol The CD is already available in Hungary. You just need a friend to send you a digital copy Or you can get it here jukebox.mndp.ru/rebecca-2010-hungarian-cast
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Post by safira on May 22, 2010 15:05:04 GMT -5
Yes, I know the CD´s available in Hungary. But that doesn´t help me much in Germany, especially as my Hungarian friend is abroad, too. And thanks for the link. Just a while after writing my last posting I got the idea to look at this page... After listening to it I must admit Zoli does his job very well! Thankfully he does. But I´m still not fond of David as Ben and I miss Erika as Mrs van Hopper. *sigh* Andrea isn´t bad but I simply prefer Erika´s voice. I can´t help it but I think I know why they finished the CD so fast - and why the songs are the same as on the Vienna Highlight CD: To me it sounds as if they used the same tracks of the orchestra. Does anyone own a original CD already and can tell me what´s written there about the music? I mean it wouldn´t be the first time the tracks were used twice. They´ve done it with the Elisabeth CD, too. But that was in 1996...
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Post by Fantasma da Opera on May 22, 2010 15:12:57 GMT -5
I haven't got the physical CD but I am sure they used the Vienna tracks It's apparently becoming normal. The Orchestra of the BudapestOperettszinház recorded the backtracks to the english Concept of Monte Cristo and since then they have been used also for the St.Gallen and Korean CDs. So I wouldn't be surprised if now they had used the VBW Orchestra tracks. Although...they could have included more tracks since they just needed to record the voice. It's also a shame 'cause I really like the Orchestra of the Budapest Operettszinház. But better than nothing ;D
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Post by safira on May 22, 2010 15:44:04 GMT -5
It's also a shame 'cause I really like the Orchestra of the Budapest Operettszinház. I agree completely. But now I have a(nother) good reason for buying a Monte Cristo CD. ;D
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Post by Cia on May 23, 2010 2:50:05 GMT -5
Zoli sounds really good here and he's probably the best singer I've heard in the role this far, but Dóra was a lot better on stage. On the CD her singing doesn't sound very strong and she feels quite old for Ich. Dávid as Ben also sounds really weird, I wish they would have casted László Sánta as 1st cast Ben. Lilla is great, though, and I really hope I get to see her. I can´t help it but I think I know why they finished the CD so fast - and why the songs are the same as on the Vienna Highlight CD: To me it sounds as if they used the same tracks of the orchestra. Does anyone own a original CD already and can tell me what´s written there about the music? I mean it wouldn´t be the first time the tracks were used twice. They´ve done it with the Elisabeth CD, too. But that was in 1996... I was wondering the same, because the tempo sounds somehow really slow to me, and usually Hungarian language requires a bit faster tempo or the words start to sound too stretched. In concerts the backing tracks are often from German or English songs, and singing in Hungarian to them makes the singing sound very unnatural.
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Post by safira on May 23, 2010 15:50:15 GMT -5
The tempo is really too slow for Hungarian language. Together with Doras "careful" interpretation it makes the already slow songs like "Ich hab geträumt von Manderley" sound like chewing gum. Is it just my impression that MÁSZ voice sounds strained in his song? I´ve had this impression already when seeing him on stage. Now on CD he sounds to me like he must fight his voice to keep the notes.
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Post by Valancy on May 25, 2010 3:20:58 GMT -5
It was interesting to hear Zoli's Maxim because for once I could hear those songs sung like they're supposed to be sung, with the singer not sounding strained or like he can't do it and not stumbling all over the difficult rhythm. I could just hear and enjoy and focus on the music. I have issues with Zoli's interpretation, but it's something to be able to enjoy Maxim's songs musically so well. :-) Really, I didn't even realise he had it in him to sing that fantastically, because his roles until now hadn't really given him the opportunity. Or maybe he worked really hard for this one and improved a lot.
They must have recorded the CD when Dóra was still having trouble with her voice (she sounded pretty bad on some of the promo stuff before the premiere). This is why you should never make the cast recording so early. I know they always make them early so that they can sell them for the whole run of the show, but it means the CD is never very good compared to the show live... It happens a lot. I never listen to the cast recordings of the Hungarian Elisabeth or Rómeó és Júlia, for example. And I only rarely listen to the Vámpírok Bálja cast recording, because everyone is just so d**n much better nowadays that it doesn't seem to make any sense to listen to them in their very early days when they were still just learning it all and getting it together.
I think MÀZs always sounds strained and like he's doing something wrong with his voice, so I'm not sure I can tell the difference. He sounded less bad when I saw him live, though, I think.
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Post by safira on Jun 5, 2010 15:30:19 GMT -5
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Post by Valancy on Jun 5, 2010 15:38:56 GMT -5
Hey, that's not even bad for SoM's prices. The Rómeó és Júlia DVD I bought there cost twice what it does in Budapest. I don't know the price, but usually musical cast recordings in Budapest are around 4000 forints, about 15 euros.
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Post by Fantasma da Opera on Jun 5, 2010 15:53:26 GMT -5
The Hungarian CD isn't very expensive. Less than 20€. Cia knows the price for sure since she already bought it.
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Post by Lora on Jun 6, 2010 5:11:19 GMT -5
The Hungarian CD isn't very expensive. Less than 20€. It costs 4300Ft at the Operett shop, which is a little less then 15 euros (at least that was the price a week ago).
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